You may not believe it but even in this day and age there are debates raging over whether or not it is a husband's duty to discipline his wife. I'm not talking consensual play . . . but full-on disciplinary action.
Yeah? I don't think so. Just try it buster!!
The following is a conversation I found on the interwebs regarding the pro's and cons of domestic discipline. Live and let live. I think people have the right to do what they choose to do as long is doesn't effect me or other people. My opinion on the subject is clear . . . it's not happening in my marriage and it won't. My husband knows exactly what will happen to him if he tries.
I assure you this story is in no way about me or my beloved!
My husband whips me when I do something I shouldn't. He uses a strap 2 ½ inches wide, a paddle, a switch, or a belt. He makes me remove my clothes and either lay across the bed, or he puts me over his lap. I am whipped until I cry very hard. He often leaves marks, welts and bruises. I know I deserve the whippings he gives me but I wish he would not whip me so hard.
I don't consider what my husband does as abuse. I was raised in a home where the husband was the head of the house. What the man said went. He spanked my mom for her misbehavior. When my brothers, sister, and I disobeyed, he spanked us with his strap or a switch.
I love my husband and believe that if I have displeased him in any way then it is his DUTY to correct me. Once I have been punished, I feel relieved, as if my soul had been cleansed.
I am quite content in my marriage and my life and I am glad I am married to a man who is able to protect me, even if it's from myself!
Those that think that its acceptable to punish a wife for transgressions, perceived or otherwise, have equally strong opinions on the subject as those against it.
Women who want such a relationship believe in the importance of punishment; that it helps them to obey, creates harmony in the home and makes them a better wife. Naughty wives deserve to be spanked in order to break them of bad habits and disobeying their husbands.
(uhm, yeah . . . uh huh . . . er . . . )
The Bible says that the wives are to submit to their own husbands AS UNTO THE LORD. ‘To love, honor and obey’ are part of the traditional wedding vows for the female. This implies that men are superior to women and that they should obey their husband immediately and without question; to abide by them in ALL things.
(but wait . . . there’s more)
The husband is supposed to love their wife more than themselves and it is their responsibility to care for them. The key is that domestic discipline, where the husband lovingly leads, guides, and CORRECTS his wife, has to truly consensual. Punished, not abused.
(uh, no . . . so far I’m not buying into this)
It must be okay because Ricky spanked Lucy, right? Hmm . . .
It’s scary that there are so many people in the world who believe it is the right of the husband to discipline his wife. Women and men are different . . . of that there’s no doubt . . . but neither is superior to the other. Men are not always right. Neither are women.
Domestic discipline is a cowardly and childish approach to a relationship; a way to handle problems without actually dealing with them. A man who strikes his wife is a little bully boy and if a woman allows her husband to hit her then she’s a little girl with no self respect.
Growing up was hard enough! Why would a woman allow her husband or any man put her back in a little girl position?
Millions of battered women are begging everyday to get out of situations like this and I find it unbelievable that a woman would knowingly and willingly submit to an abusive relationship.
And what about the husband’s transgressions; his flaws and his mistakes? If he get’s the right to punish his wife what happens when he screws up?
Men should not hit women . . . period! Well . . .
- 1 (15 1/4-Ounce) Can Whole Kernel Corn, Drained
- 1 (14 3/4-Ounce) Can Cream-Style Corn
- 1 (8-Ounce) Package Corn Muffin Mix (Recommended: Jiffy)
- 1 Cup Sour Cream
- 1/2 Cup (1 Stick) Butter, Melted
- 1 To 1 1/2 Cups Shredded Cheddar
Preheat oven to 350 degrees F.
In a large bowl, stir together the 2 cans of corn, corn muffin mix, sour cream, and melted butter.
Pour into a greased 9 by 13-inch casserole dish. Bake for 45 minutes, or until golden brown.
Remove from oven and top with Cheddar.
Return to oven for 5 to 10 minutes, or until cheese is melted. Let stand for at least 5 minutes and then serve warm.
Any man that hits a woman is a weak minded sickofint. Woman (wives) are a precious gift from God and not perfect. The sooner men realize this the better off they will be. Any female that is in an abusive relationship needs to know the covenant between you, God and your "husband" has been broken and you need to leave, find someone new (who is bigger and stronger) and direct him to go give a double beating to your ex.ReplyDelete
A few weeks ago I preached on the passage cited above(Colossians 3:18-19). I'll spare you the sermon and just dumb it down for you a bit (in case Chris is reading ;-) ).ReplyDelete
The submission the wife offers is based on the love her husband shows her in verse 19. It's an unselfish love (Greek: Agape) that seeks the very best for the other person...even at the cost of your own life.
The wife's submission is also voluntary. This isn't a command. It cannot be forced. And finally, the wife's submission is to be "fitting in the Lord (a better translation than simply "as unto the Lord")." We don't live in fear of getting a spanking from Jesus. We shouldn't submit to someone else because we're afraid they might beat us.
The most important part of this entire passage is verse 25, "there is no favoritism." No one has anything above anyone else in these relationships. All the submission and love that we show for each other point to the submission and love we have for the one we call "Lord." If our relationship to him means anything than our relationships on earth will be a reflection of what he means to us.
Interesting topic, Cher. I still point to your wedding as my favorite and tell people about it all the time. :-)
Men should be disciplined tooReplyDelete
Respect your point of view, but 5 different pictures of women being spanked?ReplyDelete
To each there own, I spank my wife when she deserves it. She is one of the millions who loves to read the romanace stories at amazon and Barns & Nobles so there must be a great following in dominate men relationships.ReplyDelete
The Bilble gives direction to having a peaceful home and a happy marrage by commanding the wife to submit to the husband.
I would never, EVER hit my wife or any other woman for that matter any where besides the soft fleshy parts of the buttocks which is curiously the one part of the female anatomy that still expands well into adulthood.
I will say that I can understand the frustration of todays women and why they seek fantasys of dominate men in books and movies. What so many women want and need have been taken away from men, laws and social acceptance impede the natural order of things. The odds of having a divorice in the first marrage is 50% and it's not because of abuse. It is my sincere belief that Men aren't prepared or taught to be a MAN. A man who will lead his family make the hard decision and work hard to provide and protect his family. The "Feminzation of America (google it)" is well on its way to making drastic changes that only God knows what will happen.
"And what about the husband’s transgressions; his flaws and his mistakes?"ReplyDelete
I find your article amusing as I would argue the pendulum has swung 180 degrees the opposite direction since the feminist/sexual revolution of the '60s. Women ROUTINELY get away with abusing their husbands/boyfriends/significant others today and society readily condones it - even gives its blessing whether physical, emotional, verbal - even sexual abuse. I know from first hand experience in my own marriage and from > 20 years experience as a law enforcement officer.
My wife and I are both devout Christians but she has NO QUALMS screaming/yelling at me for hours on end, calling me every name in the book, humiliating me, insulting me, throwing things at me, withholding intimacy, you name it. Do I return any of the abuse? No. I take my vows seriously. Do I work hard to provide for her and the children and show them my love? Of course! Does that matter to her? Please!
I routinely overhear her female friends discussing their husbands in a disparaging and emasculating manner as well. Women have had 40 + years of “men are evil” crammed down their throats in school and in society and they’ve been making up for it ever since and men and children have been paying the price.
I saw/heard/read the same thing almost daily in my job as well. Women today KNOW they hold all the cards in their relationship. They KNOW that all they have to do is pick up the phone and call the police & report a physical altercation or call CPS & report child abuse and their man is toast! They KNOW the courts will back them and give them full or majority custody of the children, hefty child-support and alimony, and men are simply S.O.L. if they don't like it.
I would never think of spanking or "disciplining" my wife or any other woman - I find it unconscionable! I just marvel at how so many women today find the ideas on “discipline” above horrific but think it's perfectly acceptable to do the same and more to men? “To have and to hold.... to love and to cherish"? Give me a flipping break!
I'm of the mind that in order to have a fullfilling relationship, both partners must be mutually respectful to each other. I'm with my husband because we connected on the deepest levels. I love him and he loves me. I wouldn't consider abusing him and he is not permitted to abuse me . . . not that he would. I love him, cherish him, hold him and have him as often as possible.ReplyDelete
Well, I am glad I am not married to you then. Only real women enter my life, and my wife for almost 28 years knows her place, and loves being spanked as a disciplinary measure.ReplyDelete
That corn casserole could be the cause of domestic violence problems.ReplyDelete
It might also be seen as a gateway casserole that could lead to other religious fundamentalist practices like Duggarism, whose tenets involve Tater Tot casserole, over-use of hair products and having 19 children.
That's funny! Gateway casserole. If it is 100% consentual, then I don't see the problem...but of course, that is looking at it in a sexual way (somebody had to say it!) But no, a man seriously beating his wife is simply trying to beat out his OWN demons! Plain and simple. Domestic violence sickens me. But being a submissive wife at times is very much a turn on.ReplyDelete
P.s: I won't hesitate to spank my hubby if he misbehaves.ReplyDelete
I'm a woman and I agree with Xavier. I'm shocked at how women treat their husbands. I've witnessed wives yelling, threatening and being downright nasty. They'd never talk to other people the horrible way they talk to their husbands. If I talked to my husband like that, I would find myself over his knee getting my bare behind spanked good and hard with the back of a wooden hairbrush and I have. I don't consider it abuse. I consider it a lesson learned for my nasty mouthing off. The only reason my husband has spanked me is because of what Xavier described. I watch what comes out of my mouth now.ReplyDelete
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Umm so... for starters the way thats done and how he leads and directs a family are two different things. Never would I let someone deal with my child the same way they do me whoever wrote some of that was sick in the head. I see both sides. I know what abuse is and your husband raping you is abuse not consented spankings. There are different reasons religious is not one trust me God wants to be left out of this one. I am not weak for the desire if anything it adds a whole other level of intimacy. If you use your head you will realize what it does. The physical aspect is what it adds to intercourse the pain is on her bare exposed bottom the blood flow is all pelvic and the pain is in a sensual area. Mentally it makes her feel vulnerable to him and builds trust. In arguments it can help with frustration. Any fear is more like excitement im not afraid of him I wouldn't submit if I felt like some dog thats been kicked too much. I feel like his "bad girl" I know I will get wet from what is coming. Its a turn on to be so desperate to him but he stays stern. Its not like he is calling me names or forcing it. I asked for it first he is just giving me what I asked for. Ordering me to position is hotter than asking me if I want it. If I don't ill say I really don't want one before it even starts. Im going to fight much harder if I was really struggling he would get hurt my protests are encouragement. My whining and moaning lets him know where im at physically and my desperate hands just get restrained so it can be done. I might whine and kick or squirm reach to cover my bottom but no orgasim is done still. It adds to it because im whipped harder when it happens it just causes an endless stream of pleasure.ReplyDelete